I think they must have known what kind of person LE is and they were fine with
Lloyd was in many ways the exJW mafia, sad to say. Before you all comment on his appearance, please remember that Jabba the Hutt ran a criminal enterprise on Star Wars.
Al Capone had a bit of a weight problem too.
To get anything big done you needed Jabba the Hutt’s support, either directly or tacitly. And boy could he shut your ass down by a simple tweet. It was like the fucking bat signal for his goon squad.
O’Donnell and Ortiz knew this. O’Donnell didn’t want a public break with him lest he shit all over what Mark was doing. He did just that to Marc Latham. Ortiz would have never gotten the exJW support he needed for his documentary without Lloyd. I always thought that as an indie semi-professional filmmaker Lloyd’s slovenly appearance was a detriment to the project and Lloyd’s insistence on being the interviewer played a huge part in him winning the role.
So they thought they were in cahoots with Michael Corleone. But they were really in business with Fredo.
So tragic.